Work-life balance and the AAA-indie dichotomy

This episode’s guest is Joie Cao, a visual design artist at Riot Games working on Teamfight Tactics, where she creates UI for future sets as part of the core gameplay team. Before that, she worked on League of Legends, where she designed interfaces for game modes and limited-time events.

We talk about work-life balance, Roblox side projects, and what makes someone great to work with.

Apologies for the bad audio! This episode was recorded on September 19, 2025.

Music by ⁠Abstraction⁠.